Hannah Shahabi and Roland Scheppske
23 January 2026
53m 38s
The Cost of Caring (Not Covered by Insurance)
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53:38

Hannah Shahabi and Roland Scheppske
23 January 2026
53m 38s
00:00
53:38
Hot Take: Professions that routinely absorb secondary or vicarious trauma should require ongoing therapy or structured mental-health evaluations.
In this episode, Roland and Hannah are joined by attorney Chip Clapp to unpack a provocative but necessary conversation about care, responsibility, and sustainability in trauma-exposed professions. From healthcare and law to therapy and emergency response, many roles require people to hold the emotional weight of others—often without adequate support.
Together, they explore what vicarious trauma actually is, how it shows up over time, and why compartmentalization and “toughing it out” aren’t long-term solutions. The conversation moves beyond individual resilience to examine systemic responsibility: What does it mean to truly respect professions built on empathy? How do we balance personal accountability with accessible, ethical support structures? And what would prevention look like if we took emotional wear and tear as seriously as physical safety?
This episode invites listeners—especially helpers, healers, and advocates—to rethink burnout, normalize care, and imagine a future where tending to mental health isn’t optional, but essential.