You Seem Fine Podcast

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Hannah Shahabi and Roland Scheppske

14 March 2025

51m 56s

Baa Baa Black Sheep

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Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in the DMV area. Hannah and Roland have often found themselves having lengthy conversations with one another and developing hot takes about different therapy topics. It was in these discussions that the two of them realized a lot of ways that they mentally envisioned these aspects, were through the specific lens of a millennial (i.e. those born between the years of 1981-1996). With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland decided that being able to express these thoughts and appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality, would not only be fun, but also beneficial. Specifically, for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey.

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL*

00:00- Opening

00:11- Legal Disclosure

00:41- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:53- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:09- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:19- Roland's Swiftie Song

02:37- Hannah's Swiftie Song

08:25- Chatter?? (Might be okay though)

08:38- Hot Take Intro

08:44- The Black Sheep

09:05- Internal Family Systems Approach

10:32- Examples of Parts

12:23- IFS Work Example

13:50- Family Roles vs Parts

14:33- Black Sheep vs Cycle Breaker

15:20- Hannah's Hot Take

15:42- Roland's Hot Take

18:23- Hannah's Sub-Hot Take

18:41- Black Sheep Potential

20:27- Black Sheep + Empowerment = Cycle Breaker

22:48- Black Sheep, Woe as me?

23:30- Cycle Breaker is Active, Black Sheep is Passive

24:32- "Not Everyone is a Cycle Breaker"

25:32- Battle between Self & Inner Child

26:25- Manager & Firefighter

27:30- Nuance of the Black Sheep

27:43- The Difficult Child

28:42- Takeaways

29:39- Therapy is important!

30:36- Not just family (Society/Work/Etc.)

32:04- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

32:12- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

38:39- Behind the Couch (Roland)

43:14- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

47:10- Under the Cushion (Roland)

52:03- Outro

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