You Seem Fine Podcast

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Hannah Shahabi and Roland Scheppske

25 July 2025

43m 58s

Mirror Mirror on the Wall

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This Episode is certainly the fairest of them all! Hannah and Roland sit down to discuss Narcissism. Narcissism is commonly referred to as a personality trait characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, a constant need for admiration, and a lack of empathy for others. And, surprise! Hannah and Roland have the same Hot Take! Whether it's identifying the gaslighting, demystifying the buzzwords, or beating a tiktoker over the head with the DSM, put down the poison apple and pay attention. Call it vain, maybe even call it arrogant, but we KNOW you'll want to hear this.

00:00- Opening

00:17- Legal Disclosure

00:47- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:58- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:13- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:23- Roland's Swiftie Song

01:37- Roland's Explanation

02:45- Verbiage is Important; no wasted time

04:28- Compartmentalization

04:44- Hannah's Swiftie Song

05:32- Hannah's Explanation

06:08- Working through monotony

07:13- Hopeful in the Mud

07:16- Hot Take Intro

07:23- Narcissism

07:31- Trigger Warning

08:35- Narcissist Label Can Only Be Used by Mental Health Professional

10:00- Hannah & Roland Have the same Hot Take!

10:36- No Normalizing Narcissism

12:21- Narcissism is not a giant spectrum

12:54- Narcissistic Personality Disorder/DSM Diagnosis

14:13- Frequency is Important to Notice

15:01- Selfishness/Arrogance is Conflated to Narcissism

15:45- Grandiosity is the keyword

16:40- Narcissism Buzzwords

17:54- Maladaptive, not just attention seeking

19:29- Need to be seen vs. Who Should See Me?

20:51- Manipulation

21:05- Gaslighting

23:29- Gaslighting is always pointed

24:57- Psychological Dominance

26:38- Again, NPD Only Be Used By Mental Health Professionals!

27:26- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

27:31- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

28:30- Psychoeducation Soapbox; Add Tendencies After

30:03- Compassion & Empathy

31:05- Recovery from Narcissistic Abuse

32:45- Behind the Couch (Roland)

33:15- Comorbidities & Differentials

34:04- Covert NPD or BPD?!

35:18- Therapy Wise- Confrontation is good

37:24- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

38:01- Gray Rocking

39:57- Better to Regulate Self than Fuel Fire

40:13- Under the Cushion (Roland)

40:26- Quiet Undertaking

41:24- Remove Self Before Falling Prey

42:40- Code Speech

43:35- Duty to Report Only Caveat

43:51- Outro

**This podcast does not serve as Mental Health Therapy with a Licensed Professional. This podcast is for educational purposes only. If topics from the podcast resonate with you, we recommend consulting a mental health provider for tailored support.

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