You Seem Fine Podcast

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Podcast by Hannah Shahabi and Roland Scheppske

You Seem Fine Podcast

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in Virginia. Hannah and Roland have often found themselves having lengthy conversations with one another and developing hot takes about different therapy topics. It was in these discussions that the two of them realized a lot of ways that they mentally envisioned these aspects, were through the specific lens of a millennial (i.e. those born between the years of 1981-1996). With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland decided that being able to express these thoughts and appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality, would not only be fun, but also beneficial. Specifically, for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey. The You Seem Fine podcast provides an inside look on how Hannah and Roland conduct therapy around that topic. as well as how they handle that personally in a segment called “Behind the Couch and Under the Cushion”. As a fun bonus, Hannah and Roland lean into their Swiftie side by sharing their Taylor Swift lyric of the week at the start of each episode during the “I Don’t Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift” segment. *THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL.*

Latest episodes

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20 February 2026

With Main Character Energy, Comes Great Responsibility

00:00- Opening 00:17- Legal Disclosure 00:46- Personal Intro (Hannah) 00:58- Personal Intro (Roland) 01:14- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift 01:24- Roland's Swiftie Song 02:08- Roland's Explanation 05:07- Hannah's Swiftie Song 05:41- Hannah's Explanation 07:23- Hot Take Intro 07:37- LAST EPISODE!!!! 07:57- Emotional Ownership 08:18- Definition of Emotional Ownership 08:56- Accountability is Main Piece for Roland 09:19- Hot Take: Emotional Ownership Can Only Be Achieved Through Therapy 09:59- EQ Needs Coaching/Education Just Like IQ 10:33- Bettering EQ is like learning another language 11:51- Therapy is What is Seen; Unbiased & Objective 13:27- Friends Aren't Therapists 14:56: Responsibility 16:45- Not About Quick Fixes; About the Gray 17:56- Emotions Are Energy Analogy 20:05- Communication in Energy Transfer 22:14- Trickle Effect 23:30- Is Ghosting Emotional Ownership?? 26:11- Answer? No, no it's not! 27:08- Infiltrates Others Spaces 28:39- Therapy, Ultimately, Is Key 30:34- Guidance & Safety Nets come from Therapy 32:22- Have Support; But They Are Always Biased 33:37- AGAIN, THERAPY! 35:16- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion 35:25- Behind the Couch (Hannah) 36:02- Giving Space to Emotion 36:36- Trauma Informed Approach 37:56- Extensive amount of trauma avenues 39:17- Curiosity & Questioning 39:51- Rapport & Safety 40:28- Content is not issue; it's emotional response 41:37- Awareness & Acknowledgement 41:59- Behind the Couch (Roland) 42:12- Challenge, Challenge, Challenge 42:42- Giving Permission & Teaching Permission 43:16- Honesty About What's Healthy 43:49- Safety & Permission to be Angry/Sad/Etc. 44:19- Water/Dam Analogy like Energy Analogy 45:13- Secure Attachment & Rapport Building 46:17- Accountability is Always Hard 46:33- Under the Cushion (Hannah) 46:52- Therapy was key 47:30- Practice Accountability & Overcome Avoidance 47:53- DBT 48:09- DBT Example 49:11- Allowing more than 1 thing to exist at once 50:42- Mowing Lawn Example 51:23- Better Tells through therapy 52:27- Under the Cushion (Roland) 52:40- Accountability For Self on lock, but not others 53:36- Consistent Avoidance 54:06- Follow up is important 54:46- Defense mechanisms vs. true conversations 55:22- Emotionally Aware is a Consistent journey 55:46- Recognition, Responsibility, Accountability 56:36- Was once the petty one 57:09- Authenticity is paramount 57:23- Outro

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06 February 2026

I Like My Money Where I Can See It-- Hanging in my Closet.

00:00- Opening 00:17- Legal Disclosure 00:47- Personal Intro (Hannah) 00:58- Personal Intro (Roland) 01:14- I Don't Therapy, I have Taylor Swift 01:33- Roland's Swiftie Song 02:04- Roland's Explanation 03:04- Hannah's Swiftie Song 03:37- Hannah's Explanation 05:09- Hot Take Intro 05:18- Live to Work? Work to Live? 05:47- Hannah is Work to Live 05:56- Roland is ALSO Work to Live 06:35- You can definitely be both 07:02- Are passions living to work? 07:47- Work to Live Values Experiences 08:27- Hamster wheel of doing one to the other 08:49- Live to work; structure & purpose 09:56- Privilege & Status 11:51- Nuance & Mindset 14:26- Work to Live Can Be Glamorous 16:36- Happiness is a Mindset 17:31- Mentality is everything 17:56- Cultural Elements 18:54- Work has many definitions 19:35- USA isn't in top 10 of work/life balance 21:06- Capitalism!! 22:24- How difficult would it be to switch? 23:18- Exhaustion, Emotional Overload, etc. 25:30- Nervous System Tells All 26:15- Boundaries should be followed 27:11- Learned Behavior 28:07- Permission is Key 28:22- Maybe throw it all out! 29:23- Step Processes to Work-Life Balance 30:58- Hustle Culture & Productivity Shows Worth 32:25- Live both to understand yourself 32:47- One is not better than the other 33:22- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion 33:41- Behind the Couch (Hannah) 34:02- Unmet needs with live to work 34:33- Doing something takes the anxiety away 35:55- Overwhelmed Achievers are undecided 37:26- Millennials Are Work to Live 38:04- Reconnecting to the body/nervous system 39:20- What balance can be had? 39:50- CBT & EFT mainly 40:22- Behind the Couch (Roland) 40:34- Live to Work: High Stress & Pressure 40:57- Forget how to process/needs somatic work 41:24- Skills to process body stress 42:04- No fulfillment, constant searching for self 42:44- Being in the present is the overlap 43:28- Way to think about values 45:19- Under the Cushion (Hannah) 45:52- Resentment of work 46:12- Live to work space but still Work to Live 46:42- Client facing work is fulfilling 47:30- Never doubt the career path 48:25- Still work, but slow down with endless funds 50:32- Under the Cushion (Roland) 50:40- Blue Collar at the core 50:59- Minimalistic Mentality 51:23- Decided to be Work to Live 52:14- Giving to people is fulfilling 52:55- Lived for Work while working only 53:18- 50/50 Restlessness--Productivity calls! 54:31- Again, boundaries are important! 55:31- Outro

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23 January 2026

The Cost of Caring (Not Covered by Insurance)

00:00- Opening 00:13- Legal Disclosure 00:42- Personal Intro (Hannah) 00:53- Personal Intro (Roland) 01:09- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift 01:21- Hannah's Swiftie Song 02:03- Hannah's Explanation 03:08- Roland's Swiftie Song 03:26- Roland's Explanation 04:45- Hot Take Intro 04:50- Disclaimer 05:23- Guest Star: Attorney Chip Clapp! 05:50- Chip's Attorney History~ 07:51- HOT TAKE! Mandatory Therapy for 08:19- Empathy & Compassion for Trauma 09:14- Compartmentalization Balancing 09:57- Other Professions w/ Secondary Trauma 11:10- Vicarious Trauma for Healthcare Workers 13:13- Vicarious Trauma Definition 14:37- Intellectualize to Survive 16:32- Tough to Let Others Care for Themselves 17:46- Movements for Change Takes Time 20:11- What measures do we check? 21:22- Adjustment to Traumatic Situations 22:46- Burnout, Depression, Signs 23:19- Hospitalization, Therapy, Re-evaluations 24:28- What happens to livelihood? 26:52- Professions Need to be Respected 27:24- Business of Empathy 28:20- Conversational Language can be Dangerous 29:45- What's the line in the sand for a profession? 30:14- Accessible Therapy to the Public 32:11- Fear of Disability Label 34:11- Many Barriers 35:41- Getting people on board 38:21- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion 38:52- Behind the Couch (Roland) 39:16- Not Putting More Work In Than Client 39:29- Case Consultation 40:03- Personal Therapy 40:24- Validating the Heaviness in Session 41:47- Behind the Couch (Hannah) 42:33- Lifestyle Changes & Prevention 43:48- Acknowledging Wear & Tear 44:10- Regulation Skills & Resiliency 45:21- Under the Cushion (Roland) 45:44- Entitlement from Parents 46:38- Monetary/Hustle Culture Trauma 47:18- Death of Parents 48:33- Under the Cushion (Hannah) 49:10- Weight of Vicarious Trauma is Often 49:58- Visualization to Process 51:37- Mindfulness & Case Consultation 52:54- Empowerment through Client Success 53:32- Outro

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11 January 2026

Who is the Overwhelmed Achiever?

00:00- Opening 00:17- Legal Disclosure 00:47- Personal Intro (Hannah) 00:58- Personal Intro (Roland) 01:13- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift 01:26- Hannah's Swiftie Song 01:44- Hannah's Explanation 02:27- Roland's Swiftie Song 02:49- Roland's Explanation 04:49- Hot Take Intro 04:56- Spotlight! Overwhelmed Achiever 05:14- What & Who is it?! 06:08- Response to experiences 06:44- Search for balance 07:11- High Functioning / Over Achiever inspired 08:21- Gave nuance between perfectionism 09:32- Busy but with what? 10:00- Reactions to disordered society 11:06- Nervous System & Dysregulation 11:42- Imposter syndrome 13:22- Differences in Burnout 14:24- Intensity & Experience 15:08- Reaches into personal life, too 16:34- Focus on the wins 17:02- Doesn't permeate across all ages 18:18- Teens w/ Anxiety or Complex Trauma 19:15- How to assess it 20:02- Body Work / Somatic Work 20:48- Using Masks as Tells 21:18- Emotional Energy Cost 22:08- Mind/Body Connection 23:27- Progressive Muscle Relaxation or Body Scans 23:57- Internal Family Systems (Lite) 24:54- Miracle Question 25:36- Modeling for the Clients 27:18- Attachment Styles 28:24- Therapy, therapy, therapy! Go! 29:08- Journaling Prompts 30:00- How to define Overwhelm 31:19- Broaden lens 32:26- Using all your senses for clarity 32:54- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion 33:02- Behind the Couch (Roland) 33:44- What does a "pause" look like? 34:11- Permission to stop 35:10- "I've done enough" 35:39- Recognition of success 36:24- Delayed Independence can be similar 37:22- Behind the Couch (Hannah) 37:40- Emphasis to imposter syndrome 38:22- Challenge & Re-write narratives 38:40- Start with CBT 39:38- Modeling the pause 41:16- Under the Cushion (Roland) 41:41- Intention is everything 42:09- Fail at it, so go harder 42:31- Burnout & Imposter Syndrome 43:08- Learned to take the pause 44:08- Personality tendencies 45:24- Under the Cushion (Hannah) 45:28- Not an Overwhelmed Achiever! 45:35- Moreso High Functioning Anxiety 45:50- Perfectionism Core 46:07- Achievements are never enough 47:10- Outro

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26 December 2025

Her Sister Was a Witch!

00:00- Opening 00:18- Legal Disclosure 00:46- Personal Intro (Hannah) 00:58- Personal Intro (Roland) 01:14- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift 01:24- Roland's Swiftie Song 01:35- Roland's Explanation 02:54- Hannah's Swiftie Song 03:19- Hannah's Explanation 05:10- Hot Take Intro 05:17- Guest Star: Dr. Monica Band! 06:10- Who even is a good judge of a hot take? 06:57- Pathologizing Societal/Cultural Effects as Mental Health Issues 08:03- Hannah agrees! 08:27- Internalizing Experiences to say something is wrong 09:42- Nuance is important 10:08- Diagnoses can be important for clarity 11:24- Post-Traumatic Growth 12:13- Opposites of spectrums; ignoring the middle/gray 12:37- The need to be normal 13:35- Diagnoses gives structure 15:04- Being othered; feeling of not-normal 16:27- "Out of bodied" 17:01- Adaptive Response 17:53- TikTok Diagnosing 18:46- Knowledge, Education, & Exploration 20:18- Bias Confirmation 21:11- Challenge Perspective 22:44- "Emotions are text messages" 24:07- Excuse of symptomology; a crutch 25:06- Internalized Stigma 26:11- Anxious or Overdoing it? 27:11- Mulch making it grow 28:15- Sit in feelings, call it out, blame or guilt? 29:24- Resiliency building 31:18- Empower through trauma? 32:22- Who benefits from pathologizing? 33:23- Critically question biases 34:06- Who's voice is imposing diagnosis? 35:26- Power of community 36:08- Lack of supports 36:42- Instant gratification society 37:51- Ultimate Marshmallow Test! 38:37- Thank you Monica! 39:16- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion 39:28- Behind the Couch (Roland) 40:07- Sit in the mulch; deconstruct 40:47- Getting away from pathologizing identity 40:51- Queer identities 41:13- Behind the Couch (Hannah) 41:28- Separating criteria 42:30- Impact & Role of symptoms/diagnosis 43:06- De-stigmatizing & Awareness 44:11- Identifying missing needs 44:28- Under the Cushion (Roland) 44:57- "It's just my..." 45:23- Challenging stimulation 45:51- Be in your body more 46:19- Throwing away the crutch 47:29- "What do I even do with this?" 49:02- Under the Cushion (Hannah) 49:21- Validated by diagnoses & hindered 50:06- Undiagnosed can create damage 50:42- Audit of your life 51:42- Fulfillment needs 52:35- This or that? 53:00- Normalize NOT pathologizing 53:27- Outro

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12 December 2025

What is the Playlist Protocol?

Spotlight Episode: How music can help us make meaning, move through memory, and build emotional connection. What happens when a song isn’t just a song — but a way to understand yourself more deeply? In this spotlight episode, Roland takes listeners inside The Playlist Protocol™, a therapeutic tool he developed that uses music as a bridge between memory, emotion, and healing. We explore how playlists can become emotional maps: a way to track your history, honor your growth, and create rituals of reflection. Whether it’s a breakup anthem that got you through a dark season, a song that grounds you in identity, or a melody that unlocks joy you thought you’d lost — music holds stories we sometimes can’t put into words. This episode invites you to consider how your own playlists might reveal your resilience, your relationships, and the parts of yourself you’re still learning to love. Because sometimes the most powerful therapy happens between verses.

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